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Mellyn Lammath • Thema anzeigen - "von" und "wie"

"von" und "wie"


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Beitrag Di Mär 26 2013 19:59

"von" und "wie"

Hallo liebe Leute! :shock:

Ich bin da letztens bei einer Übersetzung auf ein kleines, aber feines, Problem gestossen.
Und zwar in der Phrase: "Verlassen von allen."
Wie übersetz ich da das "von"?

"o(d)" scheint nicht wirklich zu passen.
Eine Übersetzung aus dem Englischen (forsaken by all) ist auch nicht hilfreich. Hiswelóke gibt für "by" - "na" an und als Präfix "an-".

Oder kann ich doch o(d) verwenden? Oder na?
Wahrscheinlcih denk ich wieder zu kompliziert. :?
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Bei einer weiteren Übersetzung ist mir das "wie" (im Sinne von "how") untergekommen. Das altbekannte "sui" ist aber eher ein "like"...


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Registriert: Di Mär 13 2007 13:27

Beitrag Fr Mär 29 2013 0:00

Die Frage ist, wie man den in einer Passiv-Konstruktion ausdrückt.
In Quenya haben wir's attestiert: Unbelebte Agenzien stehen im Instrumental: turún' ambartanen "vom Schicksal besiegt", belebte kriegen die Präposiiton : nahtana ló Túrin "von Túrin erschlagen". (In Latein ist es übrigens genauso, nur mit a + Ablativ im zweiteren Fall).

Was Sindarin angeht, so haben wir nur attestiert, in deinem Fall würde vermutlich ein Relativsatz gehen, versuche also stattdessen zu bilden: "den alle verlassen haben".
Falls der Instrumental auch geht, dann wäre na der beste Kandidat.

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