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Beitrag Fr Jul 24 2015 10:33

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Beitrag So Jul 26 2015 23:42

Ich sehe nur das Problem, dass es eher als "dem Tode treu" verstanden werden wird..

In Quenya hätten wir tenna 'until' als Präposition, das könnte man in Sindarin als *ten + gemischte Mutation adaptieren. Wir haben aber auch in (frühem) Quenya einmal an in der Bedeutung "bis" attestiert, da leitet es jedoch einen Nebensatz ein. Das wäre für mich auch in Sindarin die bevorzugte Variante: *thainn/saidir a ngwannanc "treu, bis wir sterben" (mit der inklusiven Form, da es innerhalb der Gruppe adressiert ist).
(Ich würde hier thann 'firm, true, abiding' oder sador 'steadfast, trusty, loyal' dem Wort tolog 'stalwart, trusty' vorziehen.)

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Beitrag Mo Jul 27 2015 12:12

Erst mal vielen Dank für die schnelle Antwort.

Okay, ich verstehe was Du meinst. Ich habe versucht das ganze wortwörtlich zu übersetzen, dabei macht der Ausdruck durch einen Nebensatz das Ganze verständlicher.
Und ich glaube ich habe auch die Logik Deiner Übersetzung verstanden:

thainn / saidir = aus a wird ai wegen dem Plural

a = Präposition, die eine weiche Mutation nach sich zieht

ngwannanc = n Mutation
gwanna - Verb - sterben
nc die inklusive "wir"-Endung
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Beitrag Mo Jul 27 2015 13:20

So isses. :-)

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Beitrag Mo Jul 27 2015 13:59

Dann bin ich ja doch kein ganz hoffnungsloser Fall :biggrin:

Vielen Dank für die Hilfe, dann folgt nun die Darstellung in Tengwar :shock:

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